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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1268
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Tue, 26 Oct 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1268
-
- Today's Topics:
- (none)
- Best way to learn code?
- CQWW: Animal Farm > Ant Farm
- Future Handhelds ??
- HT recommendation
- Looking for TH-78A mods
- Need Help with TNC connection
- New in Fairbanks, needs help...thanks.. (3 msgs)
- RFC Docs wanted
- Shuttle visible from Earth
- Yaesu FT-990 Comments...
-
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- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Oct 93 16:26:18 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: (none)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- VE3ONT EME Operation
- November, 1993 Announcement
-
- The Toronto VHF Society plans to continue its EME (Moonbounce) tests
- using the 46-meter (150') dish at the Algonquin Provincial Park, Ontario.
- Operation will be as follows:
-
- Date VE3ONT Approx.
- (UTC) TX Freq RX Freq time (UTC)
-
- Saturday, Nov. 6 432.050 432.050-060 0405-1645
- Sunday, Nov. 7 1296.050 1296.050-060 0515-1715
-
- The dish can be lowered to about 9 degrees elevation. This decreases
- our operating time by almost an hour at Moon rise and set. It also
- limits our ability to work local horizon-only stations.
-
- Equipment: Our 432 MHz setup will be significantly better than October's.
- We have fixed the receive problem that gave all signals a 120 Hz buzz, and
- we will have about 1 dB more antenna gain due to a redesigned feed helix.
-
- On 1296, we will be running about 150 watts output. The feed will be
- LHCP/RHCP switchable so we ought to be able to work linear and circular
- polarization stations.
-
- We anticipate being able to work stations running 50-100 watts to a long
- yagi on 432 or 1296. OSCAR-class stations are especially encouraged to try.
-
- Operating suggestions:
-
- Doppler shift will move the apparent VE3ONT frequency a bit. This will
- make VE3ONT seem to be a little "off frequency," so tune around. Our
- Moon echos will seem to be somewhat high (in frequency) at Moonrise and
- low at Moonset. We will, however, always transmit on .050.
-
- Note that we will be operating "split" so please spread out. In the October
- operation, some stations were frustrated due to calling us on our own
- frequency, where we weren't listening. Try to use good split-frequency
- HF DXing technique: listen for the stations that VE3ONT is calling and
- transmit near their frequency when VE3ONT stands by.
-
- Please avoid duplicate QSOs. Our goal is to be "first EME" for as many small
- stations as possible. "Calling again to say Hi" hurts small stations'
- chances of making a QSO.
-
- VE3ONT will be operating in "contest" mode. We discovered last month that
- sequenced operation was not fruitful. We will make every effort to work
- small and horizon-only stations but we will not accept skeds.
-
- HF Liaison: HF propagation from the park is extremely poor. We will try
- to check in to the 20-meter (14.345) EME Net during the day and the 75-
- meter VHF nets (3.818 & 3.843) at night. Previous attempts to do so were
- not successful, so don't expect much from us on HF.
-
- QSL information: QSL to VE3ONT ('93 Callbook address ONLY!) or to Dennis
- Mungham (VE3ASO), R.R. 3, Mountain, Ontario, Canada K0E 1S0. Color photo
- QSLs are being prepared.
-
- Michael Owen, W9IP
- MOWE@SLUMUS
- Fax: (315) 379-5804
- Dennis Mungham, VE3ASO
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 05:14:59 GMT
- From: news.service.uci.edu!paris.ics.uci.edu!csulb.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!a3bee2.radnet.com!cyphyn!randy@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Best way to learn code?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Jeff Herman (jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu) wrote:
- : In article <jdm-300993102247@158.140.20.177> jdm@cadence.com (Joe Mastroianni) writes:
- : >
- : >Code is everyone's biggest stumbling block. Soon we'll be adding
- : >proficiency in native American languages and ability to run a mile in
- : >under 6 minutes as upgrade criteria, so be happy all you have to do is
- : >learn code.
- :
- : I know that code is A1, but what are the other two `modes' you mention above?
-
- American Lang. L1 (if cw) L3 (if AM) L3AJ(if ssb) LF3(if fm)
-
- Run a mile M1 (if cw) M3 (if AM) M3AJ(if ssb) MF3(if fm) :)
-
- :
- : >
- : >The key is to remember that all CW conversations (except between two people
- : >who actually DO KNOW code) are identical. You need only be able to
- : >recognize your call. As long as you can recognize your own call in CW, your
- : >in like bacteria on a decaying piece of lamb.
-
- The above is true when contesting, or when struggling to copy someone who's
- going too fast...(sometimes it's a way to 'wing it' thru a QSO).
-
- When ya get good at it, you can start doing conversations (like what we are
- doing here) and it becomes interesting.
-
- Below (here) is a good 'wing it' QSO (even I use it)
- : >
- : >All CW conversations go like this:
- : >
- : >DE (fillin blank)
- : >TNX FER UR CALL OM (I use OK. TNX FER CALL.)
- : >UR SIG 599 599 (I use SIG IS --9. )
- : >NAME HERE (fill in blank) (I use NAME RANDY RANDY.)
- : >QTH (fill in the blank) (I use QTH WALLINGFORD-CT.)
- --- ( OK? BK --- DE KA1UNW K )
- (2nd go around now)
- ( OK [his name]- OK ALL.)
- : >RIG IS ICOM 751A (I use RIG IS COLLINS KWM-2. 25W.)
- : >ANT 4 EL YAGI (I use ANT IS 63 FT WIRE 20 FT UP.)
- : >WX SUNNY TEMPS ABOUT 20 DEG C (I somtimes skip this and follow
- what the other guy talking about)
- : >SO HW OM? ( I use OK? BK [his name] DE KA1UNW )
- : >DE (fillin blank)
- : >
- : >Then he'll say some stuff you can ignore until you hear your call.
- :
- NO! THAT's the QSO part!, the 'formality's' being done, you can begin
- talking about somthing!
-
- >
- : ... ( contester instructions now given, below)
- :
- : >You don't have to copy a single letter the other guy sends except for your
- : >call. If a QSL card comes, you can figure out who you were talking to.
- : >Otherwise, who cares?
- : >
- : >If you do this 20 times a day you'll eventually get into the prediction
- : >mode--which is what copying CW is all about anyway. What? You don't get
- : >it?
- :
- .....which can help you get around QRM or a deep fade...just remember to
- copy every letter you DO get...leave air space for missed letters and then
- you can piece it all together later.
-
- >
- : >It's like this: Most of copying CW has to do with knowing what the guy is
- : >going to say next. Once you realize that, your CW speed will increase.
- : >
- :
- : Wow Joe, sorry to hear that your QSO's are so boring. I've always had very
- : pleasurable conversations on CW (except when constesting, but even that's
- : fun). Rather than refusing to have a real conversation why not practice a
- : bit, and ask the other guy some questions concerning his career, what got
- : him started in ham radio, or carry out experiments such as trying different
- : antennas, or each of you taking turns decreasing power output over
- : several exchanges just to see how little is really needed to carry on a
- : QSO; gee, there's hundreds of topics you could discuss - no need to be
- : such a bore!
-
- I couldn't resist adding my 2c worth ! Enjoy!
-
-
- --
- Randy KA1UNW If you get a shock while
- servicing your equipment, "Works for me!"
- randy@192.153.4.200 DON'T JUMP! -Peter Keyes
- You might break an expensive tube!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 02:54:00 GMT
- From: munnari.oz.au!comp.vuw.ac.nz!frc!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: CQWW: Animal Farm > Ant Farm
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- CQWW-Phone 1993, 30-31 Oct:
-
- Once again will the Animal Farm be miraculously transformed into an
- Antenna Farm (gales permitting). The sheep chased out of the woolshed,
- their beeeeh-ing replaced by the soft humming of linears, the smell of
- smoking RF chokes mixing with the waft of burning Contest Macaroni,
- outside the sound of gumboots sloshing in the mud...
-
- Yes, it is that time again. The Kiwi Contest Group will be taking
- part, signing ZL2K (we missed out on the ZM prefix this time) on all
- bands (multi-multi). Anticipated alloy forest: 7, 5, 3, 2 element
- monoband yagis for 10,15,20,40 and long wires for 80 and 160. Looking
- forward to hearing you there...
-
- Cheers, Wilbert ZL2BSJ.
-
- --
-
-
-
- Wilbert Knol MAFFISH Marine Research, POBox 297 Wellington, New Zealand.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 93 08:52:33 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Future Handhelds ??
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- How far ahead is the communications industry beyond Amateur Radio
- Technology ? Looks like wireless modems will make their way
- into the industry in a big way in the near future. They are full
- duplex, transparent networking devices that mainly work on
- spread spectrum technology.
- I recently saw two seperate ads in the same trade magazine
- (Electronic Design - Oct. '93) From 'Sharp' and 'Philips' that
- showed a picture of a prototype "do-everything" handheld cellular
- phone/PC/mini CD drive/fax/e-mail/voice-mail -
- I wonder if anyone on the net saw these ads and how far off
- are devices like this from actual production ?
- Dick Tracey would be impressed !
- 73,
- Rich
- WB2JBS
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 02:58:46 GMT
- From: paris.ics.uci.edu!csulb.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!ukma!eng.ufl.edu!usenet.ufl.edu!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!freenet.scri.fsu@news.service.uci.edu
- Subject: HT recommendation
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- No-Codes are not authorized to use the 10 meter band.
- Only in a life threatening emergency, then anyone reporting the
- emergency can use 10 meters.
-
- Tim Wright KD4OVM
- --
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 01:07:24 GMT
- From: news.kpc.com!amd!netcomsv!netcom.com!wd6cmu@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Looking for TH-78A mods
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm looking for a mod for my Kenwood TH-78A dual-band HT that will
- allow me to receive out-of-band UHF signals. Please reply via email.
- Thanks and 73.
- --
- Eric Williams | Vincent: MC (B+S)t G+Y 1.1 Y L++ C+ T+ I+++ H+ S++ V+ F++
- wd6cmu@netcom.com | Murphy: DS W+(B+R)t+R Y 1.2 Y L C+ T- I+++ H+ A+ F+ B--
- WD6CMU@WD6CMU.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 21:58:24 GMT
- From: news.kpc.com!amd!netcomsv!netcom.com!btoback@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Need Help with TNC connection
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Help!
-
- I'm trying to interface a Kantronics KPC-3 to a Yaesu FT-208R, a 2m HT
- that I was hoping to put permanently on packet. Unlike most HTs, this
- one has separate PTT and mic lines, so I thought it would be easy.
-
- Not so. The earphone jack is hot -- both sides! The "audio" line is at
- +12vdc, and the "ground" is at +11.5vdc. Both the mic and PTT lines are
- referenced to ground, so connecting speaker audio would mean grounding
- a line that's at 11.5 volts. I don't think the radio will appreciate this.
-
- I don't have a scope, so I can't tell if placing the 11.5vdc line at
- audio ground via a capacitor will cause too much distortion for reliable
- operation of the TNC. I was thinking of some kind of transformer coupling,
- but I was hoping that someone else would have a better solution -- or at
- least would be able to tell me what kind of transformer to use.
-
- Thanks,
- -- Bruce Toback
- KN6MN, would-be packeteer
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 93 03:18:49 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: New in Fairbanks, needs help...thanks..
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >I was wondering if anyone could tell
- >me the local repeater Frequencies in Fairbanks rirb wq
- >Alaska. Also, what seem to be the popular simplex
- >frequencies.
- >I'm also interested in finding out the local clubs
- >and groups if any around here. Please e-mail me!!!!!!
- >Thanks for your time!!!!! d
- >---------------------------------------------------
- >FSRLA@AURORA.ALASKA.EDU WL7NT >A:
- >Roger Asbuy
- >errrr....try again.....Roger Asbury.....I hate this computer....
- >
-
- Well, when I was in Alaska (Anchorage anyways), the Squarebanks
- repeaters where on 146.88, 146.94 and 147.09. Then there
- was the Squarebanks link to Anchorage via Minchimina <?sp> Lake
- on 146.01/147.96 (Ice Worm net is what it was called then).
-
- Cant help much with the clubs, might try to contact KL7IKX or
- KL7ITI, or KL7HFQ in Anchorage, they're "big wigs" in the AARC
- and probably could give you better information than I remember.
-
- jd--k1zat
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 21:45:37 GMT
- From: news.kpc.com!amd!netcomsv!netcom.com!jfh@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: New in Fairbanks, needs help...thanks..
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- fsrla@aurora.alaska.edu wrote:
- >Hello, I just recievedgo my license abvout
- >a week ago.
- >I was wondering if anyone could tell
- >me the local repeater Frequencies in Fairbanks
- >Alaska. Also, what seem to be the popular simplex
- >frequencies.
- >I'm also interested in finding out the local clubs
- >and groups if any around here. Please e-mail me!!!!!!
- >Thanks for your time!!!!!
-
- This is almost a complete change of subject, but I read recently in
- WorldRadio that car registration if free in Alaska for cars equipped with
- HF gear. How popular are HF, VFH, and UFH in Alaska?
-
- --
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
- Jack Hamilton POB 281107 SF CA 94128 USA
- jfh@netcom.com kd6ttl@w6pw.#nocal.ca.us.na
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 01:44:23 GMT
- From: news.kpc.com!amd!netcomsv!netcom.com!jfh@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: New in Fairbanks, needs help...thanks..
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- fsrla@aurora.alaska.edu wrote:
-
- >Hello, I just recievedgo my license abvout
- >a week ago.
- >I was wondering if anyone could tell
- >me the local repeater Frequencies in Fairbanks rirb wq
- >Alaska. Also, what seem to be the popular simplex
- >frequencies.
-
- Here's the listing for Alaska from the ARRL's net directory:
-
- LOCAL UTC
- NET NAME FREQUENCY DAYS TIME DAYS TIME NOTE COVERAGE MANAGER
- (year around) (in winter)
-
- ALASKA
-
- Anchorage ARES Net 147.30 + Th 8:00 P F 0500 Anchorage vicinity NL7DY
- Juneau ARES Net 147.30 + as needed as needed Juneau vicinity KL7HFI
- Kodiak ARES Net 146.88 - as needed as needed Kodiak City/Island KL7JBV
- Tanana Valley Preparedness Net 146.79 - S 7:00 P Sn 0400 E Fairbanks North Star Borough AL7MI
-
- Alaska Bush Net 7091 Dy 8:00 P Dy 0500 T Alaska-Canada AL7LX
- Alaska Longwire Net 1846 F 10:00 P S 0700 Alaska AL7MX
- Alaska Snipers Net 3920 Dy 6:00 P Dy 0300 ET Alaska, Yukon, BC Canada KL7GG
- Earthquake/Tsunami/ARES Net 3920 when needed Alaska KL7GID
- & 14290 AL7LX
- Motely Group 3933 Dy 9:00 P Dy 0600 ETW Alaska, Yukon KL7GID
- North Slope Borough ARES Net 7097 M 7:30 P T 0430 North Slope Borough WA6PGP
-
- --
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
- Jack Hamilton POB 281107 SF CA 94128 USA
- jfh@netcom.com kd6ttl@w6pw.#nocal.ca.us.na
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Oct 93 18:22:54 EST
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!bgsuvax!uoft02.utoledo.edu!aschlie@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: RFC Docs wanted
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am looking for the RFC docs for NOS. I am told that they are available for
- ftp, but no address was given. Can anyone help me out??
-
- Thanks, 73's
- Tony
-
- +-----------------------------------------------+
- |Tony Schliesser, N8XJA |
- |Internet: ASCHLIE@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU |
- | AMPRNET: N8XJA@N8ACV.AMPR.ORG |
- +-----------------------------------------------+
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 21:26:52 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!usenet.ufl.edu!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!freenet.scri.fsu.edu!twright@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Shuttle visible from Earth
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 93 08:44:27 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Yaesu FT-990 Comments...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi Gary,
- I'm posting this to the net since my mail bounced.
- Regarding a recent posting to "Info-Hams"...
- > We are looking at an 990' for a new radio for our shack. I was wondering i
- >f there were any opinions or impressions about this rig...Any input would be ap
- >preciaated....Gary KE9MI Southern Illinois University ARC
- >packet: ke9mi@kd9sg.#sil.il.usa.na
- >inter net: st1860@siucvmb.siu.edu
-
- A good place for comments regarding the FT-990 is the Product Review
- in QST - (March 1991 ?).
- I own a Yaesu FT-990 that I purchased at Portland, H.R.O. in April.
- It was a toss up between the '990 and the Kenwood TS-850. I had actually
- planned to buy the '850 but when I set up the two side-by-side, I decided
- on the '990. To begin with, it's a solidly build radio with a feel of quality and
- craftsmanship. The VFO knob is silky smooth as are all the other controls of the
- radio. I felt Kenwood's last radio of top quality construction was the TS-940.
- After that model they went to plastic molds and less than top quality components.
- Having always owned Kenwood in the past, I felt that after the '940, they
- decided to invest in technology and less in quality. They will probably be
- the first with DSP filtering at the IF stage something I'm sure will be a milestone
- in our hobby. This is my personal opinion.
- Back to the '990, I do have several complaints about the radio but I'd buy it again
- all things considered.
- To begin with, I use the '990 with the AEA HamLink (a device that allows me to
- call in on the telephone and completely control the radio remotely. BTW, I
- modified my HamLink to also function as a "RadioLink" so I can control it
- using a dual band handy as well). The problem is that the CAT interface
- is S L O W W. It takes 4 seconds to respond to a command and this makes
- using the '990 with computer interfaces sluggish. With the HamLink, I wait
- 4 seconds after the #93# command to get the voice synthesized feedback
- of freq. and mode. The Kenwood xcvrs do it almost instantly.
- My 2nd major complaint (the rest are all minor) is the fact that the '990
- has no 'RF monitor' switch. The only way I can hear if there's distortion
- on my signal is listening with another receiver. You would expect a $2K radio
- to have this feature. (Any mods for this out there ??). You can only use
- the lower sideband position for packet (although you can use USB without
- the internal filtering). There is no scan mode to allow scanning
- from a lower limit to a higher limit. I can't understand why Yaesu doesn't
- include this in any of their radios when the others manufacturers do. (This is
- another feature that would have been great to have when using HamLink).
- If you will be using the radio for AM broadcast reception, it suffers from
- overload. AM just doesn't sound good on the radio even with the attenuator
- in. There is only one PL for FM operation (88.5) - again, it would have been
- nice to see the others. I bought the MD-1 mike, if I could do it again I'd
- go for the new 'Heil' headset instead.
- I didn't buy the 250 Hz CW filter or the 2K SSB filter because they were way
- overpriced. (I built the W9GR DSP filter instead).
- The optional TCXO and DVR are expensive.
- The internal PS is good. The DC model suffers from major problems when the
- DCV falls below 13.8.
- Read the manual well. There are things that can really help you operate the
- radio that one can only know by reading the manual.
- All of the positive points of the '990 are covered in the QST Product Review
- (and there are a lot) so I won't go into this here.
- Good luck,
- 73,
- Rich
- WB2JBS
- --------------------------------------
- Disclaimer: My employer is not responsible for my mental noise or opinions...
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- Cape Canaveral, Fla.
- Shuttle visible from Earth: Americans as far north as Chicago and
- Providence, R.I. will have rare opportunities to see a space shuttle
- flying overhead next week. The shuttle will be visible in Kentucky
- above the western horizon at 7:53 am Saturday, at 6:51 am Sunday, and
- at 6:48 am Nov.1. From the ground, Columbia will resemble a tiny,
- swiftly moving star as it orbits 178 miles high.
-
- end of article
-
- Maybe some of us will have a better chance at connecting up with
- the Hams on board the shuttle.
-
- Tim Wright KD4OVM
- --
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 02:50:12 GMT
- From: usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis!pschleck@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <4724@eram.esi.COM.AU>, <2agaqq$1fv@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, <2ahec9INN6se@abyss.West.Sun.COM>
- Subject : Re: Bird watt-meters can't be exported?
-
- In <2ahec9INN6se@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@sunspot.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers ) writes:
-
- >In article <2agaqq$1fv@bigboote.WPI.EDU> gkd@wpi.WPI.EDU (Gregory K Doerschler) writes:
- >>In article <4724@eram.esi.COM.AU> dave@esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall) writes:
- >>>So, what's with the "Not available for export" notation across the
- >>>photo of the Bird meter in the Barry ads? Too delicate? Upsets
- >>>someone's monopoly? Munitions? Classified equipment?
- >>
- >>The meter would have to be recalibrated to read foreign watts.
- >>
- >> Greg
-
-
- >Don't be silly. There is no such thing as foreign watts.
-
- >For export, you need to recalibrate the Bird wattmeters to read
- >in voltage watts, not current watts.
-
- Ya know, someone is going to come along and take you guys seriously,
- much like the ongoing "Was Grease in the Village People?" thread in
- alt.fan.greaseman.
-
- I suspect the no-export rule is internal corporate policy because they
- don't want to bother with export rules, duties, customs, etc. Their
- loss, particularly after NAFTA (now there's a good off-subject thread
- for everyone! :-).
-
- 73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU
-
- pschleck@unomaha.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
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